Miki's Ammo counters (Updated 11/10/2014)
Sept 16, 2014 9:22:13 GMT
DMScotty, gallant, and 2 more like this
Post by Miki on Sept 16, 2014 9:22:13 GMT
Hello everyone!
This project was inspired by this video:
i decided to make my own version of the different ammo's for my players.
TOKEN-LIST:
I've got a were-bat archer who makes his arrows out of his enemy's bones,--------------20 normal, 20 durable. DONE
A knife master rogue who likes using them as ranged weapons too.-----------------------10 daggers - DONE
Also there's a Elder gods Mistery Oracle,-----------------------------------------------------10 Javelins - DONE
And last but not least,
there's a Hobgoblin Samurai, australian-inspired, who rides an ostrich and needs.... ---1 Boomerang DONE
+ x2Arrow/x1Javelin Quivers, x1Knife/x1Boomerang Sheaths ------------------------------------------- DONE
Last step... paint the things that need to be painted! -------- Coming soon.
i'll keep updating this post itself so people don't have to browse xD
---ARROWS TUTORIAL---
---DAGGER TUTORIAL---
so... this is what he can have on the table, went for a mix of colors, because i didn't want it all to be black or brown, and i only had those two colors of foamy for everything.
it is also tieable, so the player can have it whilst playing on his arm like this:
HOW TO:
i cut 10 rectangles of foamy, 6cmx2cm, stapled them following a bit the shape of the biggest dagger, and then cut the excess with scissors.
it'll end up looking like this.
as you can see in this picture clearly, i made one side brown, and the other black, for every sheath, so it has a "reversible" feel.
it's easyer to notice comparing this previous picture and the next one, check the order, they are the same exact sheaths, but seen from the other side.
in this case, i decided to attach all the daggers to two stripes of foamy, and then made a tieable system using a skull as a button, at the end of the black stripes of foamy,
i attached two stripes of brown foamy, leaving a gap inbetween, wich acts as the lock for the bracelet.... although it is very rudimentary, it works.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---JAVELIN TUTORIAL---
and here we are!
i personally consider that this one was the easiest one, since i already had some experience crafting the arrows.
i went for something easy, and kinda good, looking.
also, these were inspired in the African Assegai, a type of hunting javelin that they use there.
FINAL PRODUCT:
HOW TO:
Step 1:
Cut the basic spearhead-shape off a small craft stick, using a previous pattern to have a general idea of it.
Step 2:
After some sanding of the sides, cut a little slot into the stick and attach the spearhead as seen on the picture.
Step 3:
Next up, fit the Spearhead in, with some white glue and then apply the chord with generous ammounts of white glue, to give it a more tribal effect.
(Idk i just love the thread after the spearhead xD) the cord will harden up and keep everything in place, also,
using white glue between the cord, and the spearhead itself makes it more resilient.
Step 4:
Repeat! and you'd get a bunch of Javelins that should look kinda like this+ Javelin Quiver
---BOOMERANG TUTORIAL---
....almost done! now i only need to paint some bits and bobs and that's it.
i reeeally really wonder why noone says either good nor bad things bout this project, is it because it's still not painted? or maybe because the community frowns in front of a project like this? or maybe you're just waiting? is it because i'm actively asking for feedback? maybe there's some problem with the whole "Spoiler" system that has glitched the post? well, idk, anyhow thanks for checking it out, would love to know your oppinions, cheers!
This project was inspired by this video:
i decided to make my own version of the different ammo's for my players.
TOKEN-LIST:
I've got a were-bat archer who makes his arrows out of his enemy's bones,--------------20 normal, 20 durable. DONE
A knife master rogue who likes using them as ranged weapons too.-----------------------10 daggers - DONE
Also there's a Elder gods Mistery Oracle,-----------------------------------------------------10 Javelins - DONE
And last but not least,
there's a Hobgoblin Samurai, australian-inspired, who rides an ostrich and needs.... ---1 Boomerang DONE
+ x2Arrow/x1Javelin Quivers, x1Knife/x1Boomerang Sheaths ------------------------------------------- DONE
Last step... paint the things that need to be painted! -------- Coming soon.
i'll keep updating this post itself so people don't have to browse xD
---ARROWS TUTORIAL---
Alright here we go:
So, in the video, DMscotty found these sort of heart-picks wich he re-made into arrows, well, i couldn't find those anywhere, so i decided to make my own!
ARROW PROTOTYPE V1.0
Arrowheads:
Pretty simple, make a blob out of hot glue, let it flatten out (Gravity is your friend) resist the urge to poke it and let it flatten out by itself, then cut down to shape with the utility knife.
Feathers:
Craftstick, cut it to shape i recomend cutting first the grain transversally or else it'll splinter.
Cord for arrowhead-securing:
costed me 80cents the whole thing, gonna barely use a bit for each arrow.
Arrow shaft:
costed me a bag of 20 for 80cents, your friendly, basic cylindrical stick.
When you put it all together it looks like this:
(Added the lighter for proportions reference)
How to put the arrowheads:
Video showing the process on how to put the arrowhead in place
How to put the feathers:
Just grab your gluegun, apply a stripe on the shaft, then put the cut wood-feather in place, let it dry, and then what i did for reinforcement, was give it a generous layer of white glue,
and whilst it was drying, using a toothpick i made little lines mimicking the feathers to give it texture.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ARROW PROTOTYPE V2.0
Alright! here we go again!
Arrowheads:
Step 1:
Extended version of the blob technique, but this time i melted a whole bar into a big blob, to make 40 arrowheads with the utility knife.
(Browsing the forum i found out you guys figured already that Wax paper does not stick to the hot glue,
thus allowing me to flatten out the big blob between two wax paper layers and by placing something flat and heavy on top i could do exactly what i wanted, this.
thank you all really)
Step 2:
Instead of the cylindral stick, i used skewers this time, and instead of cutting a slot, i skewered the arrowheads straight up, it holds up in a quite sturdy way, but later on i reinforce it further.
Step 3:
Repeat to get all the arrows skewered,
(don't worry if they look clunky or a bit misplaced or not cut perfectly, having a bit of a rough feel to it is what takes away the industrialized feeling)
Feathers:
Step 1:
i recommend doing this with ductape and in sets of 5, adding more makes it trickier to line up properly, and bulkier, and having less makes it a bit of a waste of time
Step 2:
Line up another layer with the previous ductape and you should end up having something like this.
Step 3:
Cut into "even squares" as you can see in this picture, this gives you space to trim and give the feathers whatever shape you want.
Step 4:
This is just an example of what it looks like after cutting and trimming, there's an outline there pointing out the arrow-slot i cut into the arrow with the utility knife,
my potato-cell-phone's camera couldn't get the detail.
Step 4 alternative:
another version i made with transparent cellophane/packing transparent tape, (idk how you guys really call it in english sorry)
this one's more flimsy, and i decided to make 20 with each, since my player was getting 20 normal arrows, and 20 durable arrows, so yeahp, the ductape version is the durable type xD
Arrowhead-securing:
Well, in this case the securing isn't really necesary since it's already skewered and it holds together very nicely just like that, but for the durable arrows i decided to add some cord with whiteglue (wich is drying right now)
i've put glue before and after placing the cord, touching the arrowhead, wich i hope it'll give it a bit of extra durability, aswell as keeping the cord in place when the white glue goes transparent.
....i just loved the looks of it with a bit of string hehe
Comparison:
And here's a comparison with the previous prototype, with the same lighter aswell, i personally think it looks much more like an arrow now, proportion-wise.
On the other hand, i decided to put only two feathers instead of 3, for functionality's sake as a token.
i'm thinking that maybe the feathers need a bit of extra-trimming and make them look more slender...
+ Arrow quiversSo, in the video, DMscotty found these sort of heart-picks wich he re-made into arrows, well, i couldn't find those anywhere, so i decided to make my own!
ARROW PROTOTYPE V1.0
Arrowheads:
Pretty simple, make a blob out of hot glue, let it flatten out (Gravity is your friend) resist the urge to poke it and let it flatten out by itself, then cut down to shape with the utility knife.
Feathers:
Craftstick, cut it to shape i recomend cutting first the grain transversally or else it'll splinter.
Cord for arrowhead-securing:
costed me 80cents the whole thing, gonna barely use a bit for each arrow.
Arrow shaft:
costed me a bag of 20 for 80cents, your friendly, basic cylindrical stick.
When you put it all together it looks like this:
(Added the lighter for proportions reference)
How to put the arrowheads:
Video showing the process on how to put the arrowhead in place
How to put the feathers:
Just grab your gluegun, apply a stripe on the shaft, then put the cut wood-feather in place, let it dry, and then what i did for reinforcement, was give it a generous layer of white glue,
and whilst it was drying, using a toothpick i made little lines mimicking the feathers to give it texture.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ARROW PROTOTYPE V2.0
Alright! here we go again!
Arrowheads:
Step 1:
Extended version of the blob technique, but this time i melted a whole bar into a big blob, to make 40 arrowheads with the utility knife.
(Browsing the forum i found out you guys figured already that Wax paper does not stick to the hot glue,
thus allowing me to flatten out the big blob between two wax paper layers and by placing something flat and heavy on top i could do exactly what i wanted, this.
thank you all really)
Step 2:
Instead of the cylindral stick, i used skewers this time, and instead of cutting a slot, i skewered the arrowheads straight up, it holds up in a quite sturdy way, but later on i reinforce it further.
Step 3:
Repeat to get all the arrows skewered,
(don't worry if they look clunky or a bit misplaced or not cut perfectly, having a bit of a rough feel to it is what takes away the industrialized feeling)
Feathers:
Step 1:
i recommend doing this with ductape and in sets of 5, adding more makes it trickier to line up properly, and bulkier, and having less makes it a bit of a waste of time
Step 2:
Line up another layer with the previous ductape and you should end up having something like this.
Step 3:
Cut into "even squares" as you can see in this picture, this gives you space to trim and give the feathers whatever shape you want.
Step 4:
This is just an example of what it looks like after cutting and trimming, there's an outline there pointing out the arrow-slot i cut into the arrow with the utility knife,
my potato-cell-phone's camera couldn't get the detail.
Step 4 alternative:
another version i made with transparent cellophane/packing transparent tape, (idk how you guys really call it in english sorry)
this one's more flimsy, and i decided to make 20 with each, since my player was getting 20 normal arrows, and 20 durable arrows, so yeahp, the ductape version is the durable type xD
Arrowhead-securing:
Well, in this case the securing isn't really necesary since it's already skewered and it holds together very nicely just like that, but for the durable arrows i decided to add some cord with whiteglue (wich is drying right now)
i've put glue before and after placing the cord, touching the arrowhead, wich i hope it'll give it a bit of extra durability, aswell as keeping the cord in place when the white glue goes transparent.
....i just loved the looks of it with a bit of string hehe
Comparison:
And here's a comparison with the previous prototype, with the same lighter aswell, i personally think it looks much more like an arrow now, proportion-wise.
On the other hand, i decided to put only two feathers instead of 3, for functionality's sake as a token.
i'm thinking that maybe the feathers need a bit of extra-trimming and make them look more slender...
Here it is:
Did what DM scotty did in the video, with a little variation, also wanted to keep it simple since i know that in the future the archer will get a magical one, and when that happens i'll upgrade these basic ones.
Also decided to trim the feathers of the arrows further, it made everything too bulky and it had a funky shape. i think they look waaay better now!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Did what DM scotty did in the video, with a little variation, also wanted to keep it simple since i know that in the future the archer will get a magical one, and when that happens i'll upgrade these basic ones.
Also decided to trim the feathers of the arrows further, it made everything too bulky and it had a funky shape. i think they look waaay better now!
---DAGGER TUTORIAL---
Alright, so as in for the daggers, i've been trying different methods that i've been thinking about, test and failure, and moving on, it turns out that easyer means better, atleast in this case...
FINAL PRODUCT:
and x10
HOW TO:
this is the simple version... just make a raw drawing of what you want on paper, use it as basic shape arround a craft stick,
cut, wrap the "Foamy" or E.V.A foam as how we call it here,(very cheap, bout 80 cents a dinA4 sized sheet)
and then to put it together i used hot glue both as pummel and aswell to secure the foam in place,
and for the handguard i simply put a couple hot glue blobs, waited for it to cool down, and then cut it back to shape with my utility knife.
Here are some failed attempts!
Sooooo.... the main reason why it took me so long to put this up together, was that i've been thinking and testing on my own... and i'll show my shame aswell heheh
FAILED ATTEMPT 1:
Right, so here i was, all hyped to make the daggers, thought about practicing the hot glue sculpting technique thingy because i felt like it,
and thought of making the daggers as similar as in real life swords are made.... kind of.
The idea was having a basic hot glue blade shape, then cut two pieces of the handle and as if it was a sandwich, put the handles together, then add the handguards on top
well nope... the shape of the handguard was a pain to cut through wood because of the grain, such small thickness makes it very very snappy unless you're in the right way of the grain....
and the worst part....
is....
this...
the blade was flacid! any rogue that values itself wants his daggers to be sharp and straight...!
so... NOPE! time to try another road.
FAILED ATTEMPT 2:
So then i thought, hey, just carve the shape outta the craft stick and move on!
well, as you can see here, the grain of the wood is a huge problem when working with small thicknesses, so the handguards kept snapping...
and even if they didn't they were VERY flimsy and fragile, so... i tried to reinforce them cutting the other smaller craft sticks,
thus, placing the grain looking the other way i had something more sturdy, VERY sturdy actually, but white glue (best for wood)
contracts a lot and it kept leaving a gap inbetween the handles, wich i had to fill, then carve the shape, hoping that the handguards wouldn't snap
so nope, this one was put down because it took too much work and waiting for a not-secure end result.
also the looks of it.... were not the best XD in this phase atleast, it was all quite rough in this phase... Oh dear...
Anyhow, as final conclussion, i recommend cutting with the utility knife through the craft sticks rather than using the chisel, it's not thought to be a very very precise tool for this sorta job.
the utility knife is way better!
+ Dagger Sheaths FINAL PRODUCT:
and x10
HOW TO:
this is the simple version... just make a raw drawing of what you want on paper, use it as basic shape arround a craft stick,
cut, wrap the "Foamy" or E.V.A foam as how we call it here,(very cheap, bout 80 cents a dinA4 sized sheet)
and then to put it together i used hot glue both as pummel and aswell to secure the foam in place,
and for the handguard i simply put a couple hot glue blobs, waited for it to cool down, and then cut it back to shape with my utility knife.
Here are some failed attempts!
Sooooo.... the main reason why it took me so long to put this up together, was that i've been thinking and testing on my own... and i'll show my shame aswell heheh
FAILED ATTEMPT 1:
Right, so here i was, all hyped to make the daggers, thought about practicing the hot glue sculpting technique thingy because i felt like it,
and thought of making the daggers as similar as in real life swords are made.... kind of.
The idea was having a basic hot glue blade shape, then cut two pieces of the handle and as if it was a sandwich, put the handles together, then add the handguards on top
well nope... the shape of the handguard was a pain to cut through wood because of the grain, such small thickness makes it very very snappy unless you're in the right way of the grain....
and the worst part....
is....
this...
the blade was flacid! any rogue that values itself wants his daggers to be sharp and straight...!
so... NOPE! time to try another road.
FAILED ATTEMPT 2:
So then i thought, hey, just carve the shape outta the craft stick and move on!
well, as you can see here, the grain of the wood is a huge problem when working with small thicknesses, so the handguards kept snapping...
and even if they didn't they were VERY flimsy and fragile, so... i tried to reinforce them cutting the other smaller craft sticks,
thus, placing the grain looking the other way i had something more sturdy, VERY sturdy actually, but white glue (best for wood)
contracts a lot and it kept leaving a gap inbetween the handles, wich i had to fill, then carve the shape, hoping that the handguards wouldn't snap
so nope, this one was put down because it took too much work and waiting for a not-secure end result.
also the looks of it.... were not the best XD in this phase atleast, it was all quite rough in this phase... Oh dear...
Anyhow, as final conclussion, i recommend cutting with the utility knife through the craft sticks rather than using the chisel, it's not thought to be a very very precise tool for this sorta job.
the utility knife is way better!
so... this is what he can have on the table, went for a mix of colors, because i didn't want it all to be black or brown, and i only had those two colors of foamy for everything.
it is also tieable, so the player can have it whilst playing on his arm like this:
HOW TO:
i cut 10 rectangles of foamy, 6cmx2cm, stapled them following a bit the shape of the biggest dagger, and then cut the excess with scissors.
it'll end up looking like this.
as you can see in this picture clearly, i made one side brown, and the other black, for every sheath, so it has a "reversible" feel.
it's easyer to notice comparing this previous picture and the next one, check the order, they are the same exact sheaths, but seen from the other side.
in this case, i decided to attach all the daggers to two stripes of foamy, and then made a tieable system using a skull as a button, at the end of the black stripes of foamy,
i attached two stripes of brown foamy, leaving a gap inbetween, wich acts as the lock for the bracelet.... although it is very rudimentary, it works.
---JAVELIN TUTORIAL---
and here we are!
i personally consider that this one was the easiest one, since i already had some experience crafting the arrows.
i went for something easy, and kinda good, looking.
also, these were inspired in the African Assegai, a type of hunting javelin that they use there.
FINAL PRODUCT:
HOW TO:
Step 1:
Cut the basic spearhead-shape off a small craft stick, using a previous pattern to have a general idea of it.
Step 2:
After some sanding of the sides, cut a little slot into the stick and attach the spearhead as seen on the picture.
Step 3:
Next up, fit the Spearhead in, with some white glue and then apply the chord with generous ammounts of white glue, to give it a more tribal effect.
(Idk i just love the thread after the spearhead xD) the cord will harden up and keep everything in place, also,
using white glue between the cord, and the spearhead itself makes it more resilient.
Step 4:
Repeat! and you'd get a bunch of Javelins that should look kinda like this
So yep, here it is:
First off, i grabbed some foamy, rolled it arround the spears, and stapled it together, then cut a square of foamy, and glued the cylinder to the square, and trimmed off the edges so it stays as a circle,
all i used was hot glue and staplers.
and since the player has a gillman oracle of the elder gods (cthulhu inspired) i decided to use my hot glue gun in a VERY rough way to depict some sort of aberrational octopus decoration on to it.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------First off, i grabbed some foamy, rolled it arround the spears, and stapled it together, then cut a square of foamy, and glued the cylinder to the square, and trimmed off the edges so it stays as a circle,
all i used was hot glue and staplers.
and since the player has a gillman oracle of the elder gods (cthulhu inspired) i decided to use my hot glue gun in a VERY rough way to depict some sort of aberrational octopus decoration on to it.
---BOOMERANG TUTORIAL---
And last but not least, the boomerang...!
since i only had to make one of these, i decided to put some extra effort into it.
HOW TO:
Step 1:
So, here what i did, after a couple failed trys, as you can see, is basically cut a small craft stick into the shape of the boomerang, and using some wax/oven paper, i put it
on a layer of hot glue, pressed it down so it flattens, (boomerangs are suposed to have a shape similar to that of a plane wing, flat below, curved atop.)
and then covered up the craft stick and made sure it had a generous ammount of glue to give shape to, it's always easyer to cut than add afterwards.
Step 2:
And here is the reshaped and carved version.... the player has a hobgoblin samurai with an australian background (rides an ostrich) and he did a very good job on the lore
that he came up with for his character... i thought of rewarding that by carving into the boomerang a platypus (his clan's symbol) and the Japanese kanjis he asked me for
meaning something like "Demon of the wind" or similar... i'm not into japanese myself, but he wanted that, so i carved it into the boomerang,
Also, reading upon how aborigian people make the boomerangs... the most primitive ones were carved out of branches or roots that had a shape similar to the boomerang itself,
and that allowed me to be rough and carve out the glue aswell.
i highlighted the carving so it's visible in the pictures, these'll be painted in the future.
+ Boomerang sheathsince i only had to make one of these, i decided to put some extra effort into it.
HOW TO:
Step 1:
So, here what i did, after a couple failed trys, as you can see, is basically cut a small craft stick into the shape of the boomerang, and using some wax/oven paper, i put it
on a layer of hot glue, pressed it down so it flattens, (boomerangs are suposed to have a shape similar to that of a plane wing, flat below, curved atop.)
and then covered up the craft stick and made sure it had a generous ammount of glue to give shape to, it's always easyer to cut than add afterwards.
Step 2:
And here is the reshaped and carved version.... the player has a hobgoblin samurai with an australian background (rides an ostrich) and he did a very good job on the lore
that he came up with for his character... i thought of rewarding that by carving into the boomerang a platypus (his clan's symbol) and the Japanese kanjis he asked me for
meaning something like "Demon of the wind" or similar... i'm not into japanese myself, but he wanted that, so i carved it into the boomerang,
Also, reading upon how aborigian people make the boomerangs... the most primitive ones were carved out of branches or roots that had a shape similar to the boomerang itself,
and that allowed me to be rough and carve out the glue aswell.
i highlighted the carving so it's visible in the pictures, these'll be painted in the future.
Aaaand finally, here's the last one!
Yup, you've guessed it, foamy, then staples, then cut a bit of leftover brown foamy into a triangle piece that i added on the staples to cover them, then added glue blobs.
and finished!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Yup, you've guessed it, foamy, then staples, then cut a bit of leftover brown foamy into a triangle piece that i added on the staples to cover them, then added glue blobs.
and finished!
....almost done! now i only need to paint some bits and bobs and that's it.
i reeeally really wonder why noone says either good nor bad things bout this project, is it because it's still not painted? or maybe because the community frowns in front of a project like this? or maybe you're just waiting? is it because i'm actively asking for feedback? maybe there's some problem with the whole "Spoiler" system that has glitched the post? well, idk, anyhow thanks for checking it out, would love to know your oppinions, cheers!